Blog Catalog Discussion: Are NEPHILIM A Fact Or A Fantasy?

kingskid on 'Are NEPHILIM A Fact Or A Fantasy?'

kingskid — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 09:18:10 -0600

@kvrock

I see you don't know who the "sons of God" are in Gen 6. Let's take a look at this scripture. Gen. 6:1 says that, "when men began to multiply on the earth that daughters were born unto them". Who are these men? Notice they were not called "sons of God" but men. Back up to Gen 4. We read that Eve conceived and had two sons Cain and Abel. We read how Cain killed Abel. The Lord drove Cain out and hid His face from him.

Cain dwelt in the land of Nod, he and his wife had children; built cities; and multiplied on the face of the earth. Adam had another son, Seth (Gen 4:25-26), whom all men came out of. If you notice it was not until after Seth was born that men began to call upon the name of the Lord.

So now we have two families on the earth, Cain's family which the Lord called the "sons of men", and Seth's family which the Lord Called "sons of God". Turn to Luke 3:23-38, you can read the lineage of Jesus Christ, skip to verse 38. You read "Enos, the son of Seth, which is the son of Adam, which is the son of God. Did you notice it did not mention Cain? The Lord disowned Cain for his sins that he committed. His line is called the "sons of man". Now, they had daughters that were fair to look upon, so the sons of (Seth)God took wives of Cain's seed, which is an evil seed.

Turn to Gen 4:23, you read that one of Cain's sons also killed a man. That is why the Lord said man has become wicked, because both familes began to mix and do wicked and evil things in the Earth, and turned away from calling on the Lord. So the Lord destroyed everything on the other side of the flood that was alive except Noah, who came out of Seth.

Now, I hope that you understand who the "son's of God" were and who the "sons of men" were, beause none of Cain's children survived the flood.

As for you saying that Angels are not called "sons of God", that is incorrect. In Job 1:6, it said, the "sons of God" came before the Lord, Satan was no longer call a son, just as Cain was no longer called a son, for both were driven out from before the face of the Lord. Before Lucifer was driven out of heaven (Rev 12:7-9), he was called a son (not sun)Isaiah 14:2. Angels are also called stars, men, sons,and spirits.

Brother Tyrone

kingskid on 'Are NEPHILIM A Fact Or A Fantasy?'

kingskid — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:29:08 -0600

kvrock,

As I am certain that you can tell I do not believe in Angelic/Human off-spring. I also can find no evidence of them in scripture.

....Hebrews 1: 4-9 should show us that no angel is ever considered a "son" of God

No, it does not show me that. Angels are the created sons of God, Jesus is the first begotten son, of many brethren. (I plan to be counted in that number.)

....Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?"

Who are the morning stars? Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! IS THIS SCRIPTURE WRONG or are you?

Who are these sons of God which were present when God laid the foundations of the Earth? Please give me scripture references.

I am sure that you have much more to say on this topic, however, I choose to believe the Word Of God. Thank you for the invite.

Peace

ThirstyJon on 'Are NEPHILIM A Fact Or A Fantasy?'

ThirstyJon — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:42:59 -0600

Hello Summer!

Interesting thoughts you present.

I am convinced that Jesus is God. The same God as that of the "Old Testament." I am convinced that that same God is good, as He proclaims Himself to be in Exodus: "Gracious and Compassionate God, Slow to Anger, Abounding in Love and Faithfulness, Forgiving Wickedness, Rebellion and Sin..."

It goes on to talk about "not leaving the guilty unpunished."

I believe the Good, Real, Loving, Kind Creator, One-True God of the Old and New Testament has a major problem to solve. He loves these kooky creatures called "mankind" so much and wants to bless them with good stuff, yet they are so stubborn and are determined to wreck it all.

One day I was thinking on this situation that we have put God in. There seems to be a "cry for justice" in all of our hearts. We see the innocent violated, we see wickedness done and our hearts say "God, DO SOMETHING!"

What we don't realize is that if God over-ruled all of the wickedness of man it would include ME (and if you take a close look - YOU). In other words, the only way God could eliminate suffering and evil in the world would be to eliminate human beings completely. We were given rule of the place all the way back in Genesis, and we are screwing it up.

God's situation: I love humans, I want to bless humans, yet I am committed to eradicating evil which because of Human Choice requires the eradication of Humans! AAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh! The pain-filled heart cry of God fills all eternity.

So He decided to fulfill Justice by becoming a man Himself. The very Jesus we have talked about. He took the Eternal Justice and Ultimate Consequence due each individual in the Human Race and SUFFERED it. Death by Cruel Roman Whipping and Crucifixion included.

But wait!

THEN...

Then -in real time/space/history- He also "Beat the Snot" out of Death itself! He came back to life as a RESURRECTED Human! The First Born from the dead!

Then he flew threw the sky leaving a group of fisherman and followers with the Commission to retake the World for Good by telling everyone about Him, living like Him, even if they also SUFFERED.

Then God Himself (the same God that is Jesus, and is the God of the Old Testament) poured Himself out of the Heavenlies and FILLED and lived INSIDE of these "little Jesus's" (Christians).

Religion was destroyed at this moment. (Trying to follow rules or customs or good works to get to God is RELIGION) Jesus was the anti-religion, the Death of Legalism, the final blow to RULES of DEATH.

I am into this guy Jesus. He is my Liberator. Because of Him I don't have to face a Truthful Judgment that would wipe me out immediately as PART OF THE PROBLEM here on this planet!

Instead I get God Within Me! (not some "force" or "universal spirit", but the REAL, CONCRETE and POWERFUL Creator God, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob) I get to be filled and slowly transformed into something GOOD! Someone who is now becoming PART of the SOLUTION!

God Himself has intervened and their is hope for the Human Race to stop destroying the Human Race. We can be changed from the inside out by HEARING and BELIEVING the True Story about Jesus! We can Know God now! In our hearts and in our minds!

We can KNOW the One-True God of the Universe and be changed because of Jesus! (Or Yeshua as Jews who recognize their Messiah would say)

Ok. Time for me to slow down and sign-out here. I didn't make this story up. God Lived it into the world through Jesus as testified to by the New Testament of the "Holy Book." Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts, Romans, I Corinthians, II Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Phillipians, Colossians, I Thessalonians, II Thessalonians, I Timothy, II Timothy, Titus, Philemon, Hebrews, James, I Peter, II Peter, I John, II John, III John, Jude, and Revelation.

Jesus is worth investigating!

If you are content with what you have, I am not threatened by that at all. I don't need you (or anyone else) to believe me. But I wish you would consider Jesus in a different light. I hope you encounter Him, not as a subjective experience or "matter of opinion," but as the Living and Real Creator God of all the Cosmos, and your potential Saving and Best Friend!

:-)

ThirstyJon

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ThirstyJon — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:40:53 -0600

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ThirstyJon — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:54:03 -0600

Now THAT was funny! Did you write that yourself?

:-)

ThirstyJon

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ThirstyJon — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:34:27 -0600

Religion is icky. Knowing Jesus is excellent!

Moving past pharisee-like "evangelicalism" is good, but I hope your friend did not forget that Jesus is the only one who was born of a virgin, was God in human form, literally died in time-space-history and literally came back to life and will literally return in person to finalize the establishment of his Kingdom!

Religion - icky. Jesus - INCREDIBLE, AMAZING and REAL!

:-)

ThirstyJon

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ThirstyJon — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:29:12 -0600

Thanks for clarifying on that! Now I truly do understand your question! I agree that the "human-angel hybrid" is not a likely explanation for those passages! In fact, I think it is impossible.

God Bless!

ThirstyJon

kvrock on 'Are NEPHILIM A Fact Or A Fantasy?'

kvrock — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:13:29 -0600

Hi kingskid,
Interesting subject isn't it? Got to establish just who the sons of God are first. Hebrews 1: 4-9 should show us that no angel is ever considered a "son" of God. And, the sons of God in Genesis 6 can't be human men .... because such a union with human females doesn't produce GIANTS as described there.

This begins to show us that maybe we don't fully know the nature of the Elohim (God family). So,... as we study further, we come across them having a meeting with God in heaven (Job 1:6, Job 2:1). This cannot be human men, and no angel, as we have seen, is ever called a son of God. Job 38: 4-7 says they existed before the earth was created.

" Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?"

I have a lot more to say, but it would be easier if you just visited my website. There is a whole lot of other related information available there too.

Thanks for the discerning question. While you are there, don't forget to check out the link named: AHEAD TO THE PAST - NEPHILIM.

Later,
Ken

Here's the web address: http://kenrockwell.blogspot.com/2007/10/about-sons-of-god.html

globalgirl on 'Are NEPHILIM A Fact Or A Fantasy?'

globalgirl — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:46:24 -0600

Summer, good point!

So this is the place of disconnect - whether or not God, Jesus and the Spirit are one? You are confused because you think they are not one in the same and, even, incongruent. I can see why when you point this difference out.

Let me think through this and come back later. This is a hefty, smart and worthy question to ask.

Summerwitch on 'Are NEPHILIM A Fact Or A Fantasy?'

Summerwitch — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:39:51 -0600

Yes - but thats Jesus , the man in the plot.Not God. I believe he was a wonderful, loving kind man who got caught up in their fairytale, I can relate to him, but not the God the bible depicts!They were contagious...is this how a loving God treats the sick while the man, Jesus can actually go to them and heal them?

Summerwitch on 'Are NEPHILIM A Fact Or A Fantasy?'

Summerwitch — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:36:03 -0600

Ok, enough of that then. If I did read the whole story I still will never see..its like the story of the emporer with no clothes. Im the boy who shouts " the emporer is naked". Thank you for trying to make me understand. I am busy with WHO IS SUMMER-RAINE ANYWAY...we will get to all the deep stuff so keep watching. Bless u all!

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globalgirl — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:35:55 -0600

They were contageous.. I think, I may be wrong, that there was leprosy in the camp here.

Jesus had compassion upon the sick... he healed them all the time.. moved with great compassion for the suffering, sick and poor. Jesus and his disciples performed miracles all the time.

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Summerwitch — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:31:37 -0600

Another example of a loving God? I will never turn away a sick or ailing person, I will emrace them flesh to flesh in love! How about you?

Numbers 5
The Purity of the Camp
1 The LORD said to Moses, 2 "Command the Israelites to send away from the camp anyone who has an infectious skin disease [a] or a discharge of any kind, or who is ceremonially unclean because of a dead body. 3 Send away male and female alike; send them outside the camp so they will not defile their camp, where I dwell among them." 4 The Israelites did this; they sent them outside the camp. They did just as the LORD had instructed Moses.

globalgirl on 'Are NEPHILIM A Fact Or A Fantasy?'

globalgirl — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:30:13 -0600

You ask very provoking questions. This is good.

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globalgirl — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:29:16 -0600

Oh Summer... There is a lot there... and I agree, one can't fully discuss passages out of context.. Meaning, that these passages can only be explained by understanding the whole. Does that make sense?

There is a story from beginning to end... and I can see the heartache of taking out a passage like this and feeling upset.. without understanding what precipitated this passage.

Right now, I don't have the time. But know there is the "rest of the story"

Summerwitch on 'Are NEPHILIM A Fact Or A Fantasy?'

Summerwitch — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:22:42 -0600

Sorry Globalgirl...I cant do it! All I see is the very reason I dont even own a bible. I refuse to ever believe that this is Your God who did these things. I would rather hear from you guys than hear of this terrible stuff coming from a loving God! Someone has lost the plot. No wonder our people do the murdering in the name of God. The bible is the friggin guide book! Sorry if I upset anyone but I AM UPSET! Read this....

44 He turned their rivers to blood;
they could not drink from their streams.

45 He sent swarms of flies that devoured them,
and frogs that devastated them.

46 He gave their crops to the grasshopper,
their produce to the locust.

47 He destroyed their vines with hail
and their sycamore-figs with sleet.

48 He gave over their cattle to the hail,
their livestock to bolts of lightning.

49 He unleashed against them his hot anger,
his wrath, indignation and hostility—
a band of destroying angels.

50 He prepared a path for his anger;
he did not spare them from death
but gave them over to the plague.

51 He struck down all the firstborn of Egypt,
the firstfruits of manhood in the tents of Ham.

52 But he brought his people out like a flock;
he led them like sheep through the desert.

53 He guided them safely, so they were unafraid;
but the sea engulfed their enemies.

54 Thus he brought them to the border of his holy land,
to the hill country his right hand had taken.

55 He drove out nations before them
and allotted their lands to them as an inheritance;
he settled the tribes of Israel in their homes.

56 But they put God to the test
and rebelled against the Most High;
they did not keep his statutes.

57 Like their fathers they were disloyal and faithless,
as unreliable as a faulty bow.

58 They angered him with their high places;
they aroused his jealousy with their idols.

59 When God heard them, he was very angry;
he rejected Israel completely.

60 He abandoned the tabernacle of Shiloh,
the tent he had set up among men.

61 He sent the ark of his might into captivity,
his splendor into the hands of the enemy.

62 He gave his people over to the sword;
he was very angry with his inheritance.

63 Fire consumed their young men,
and their maidens had no wedding songs;

64 their priests were put to the sword,
and their widows could not weep.

65 Then the Lord awoke as from sleep,
as a man wakes from the stupor of wine.

66 He beat back his enemies;
he put them to everlasting shame.

67 Then he rejected the tents of Joseph,
he did not choose the tribe of Ephraim;

68 but he chose the tribe of Judah,
Mount Zion, which he loved.

Alas, I rest my case.

globalgirl on 'Are NEPHILIM A Fact Or A Fantasy?'

globalgirl — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:14:45 -0600

Summer, I'd like to hear more of your story.. is it on your blog?

Summerwitch on 'Are NEPHILIM A Fact Or A Fantasy?'

Summerwitch — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:12:38 -0600

GLOBALGIRL - Thanks Im onto it. Oh my, you say they were guarding the city...told u they were guarding something...deep stuff!

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globalgirl — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:04:22 -0600

Summerwitch, there are numerous stories in the Bible that indicate that angels are walking amongst us, in the spiritual and natural. Many times, when they manifested before people, the angels would say, "Do not be afraid" to the person they were visiting. There are so many references in scripture - I'd encourage you simply to do a word study: http://www.biblegateway.com

Angels are messengers, protectors, visible and invisible.

There is a famous story of Elisha the Prophet where he prayed that his servant would see the armies of angels surrounding the city, and the young man discovered that he had overlooked a host of invisible beings (2 Kings 6:17)

There is another prophet in the OT, Daniel, who saw an angel with arms and legs resembling polished metal and precious stones, and a face like lightning (Daniel 10:5-6).

And so many other examples exist then and now of angels amongst us.

acousticguitarist on 'Are NEPHILIM A Fact Or A Fantasy?'

acousticguitarist — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 04:23:09 -0600

very funny punch line

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Summerwitch — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 04:17:44 -0600

Something a bit off the topic but NOAH is in there...its a bit of silly humour for us South africans

NOAH IN 2007

In the year 2007, the Lord came unto Noah, who was now living in
Australia, and said, "Once again, the earth has become wicked and
Over-populated, and I see the end of all flesh before me.

Build another Ark and save 2 of every living thing along with a few
good humans."

He gave Noah the blueprints, saying, "You have 6 months to build the
Ark before I will start the unending rain for 40 days and 40 nights."

Six months later, the Lord looked down and saw Noah weeping in his
yard - but no Ark.

"Noah!" He roared , "I'm about to start the rain! Where is the Ark ?"

"Forgive me, Lord," begged Noah, "but things have changed. I needed a
building permit. I've been arguing with the inspector about the need
for a sprinkler system. My neighbors claim that I've violated the
zoning provisions of my property by building the Ark in my yard and
exceeding the setback limitations. We had to go to the VCAT for a
decision.

Then the electricity company demanded a bond be posted for the future
costs of moving power lines and other overhead obstructions, to clear
the passage for the Ark 's move to the sea. I told them that the sea
would be coming to us, but they would hear nothing of it.

Getting the wood was another problem. There's a ban on cutting local
trees in order to save the spotted owl. I tried to convince the
environmentalists that I needed the wood to save the owls - but no go!

When I started gathering the animals, PeTA sued me. They insisted that
I was confining wild animals against their will. They argued the
accommodation was too restrictive , and it was cruel and inhumane to
put so many animals in a confined space.

Then the DSE ruled that I couldn't build the Ark until they'd
conducted an environmental impact study on your proposed flood.

I'm still trying to resolve a complaint with the Human Rights
Commission on how many minorities I'm supposed to hire for my building
crew.

Immigration and Naturalization are checking the Visa status of most of
the people who want to work. The trades unions say I can't use my
sons. They insist I have to hire only Union workers with Ark-building
experience.

To make matters worse, the ATO seized all my assets, claiming I'm
trying to leave the country illegally with endangered species.

So, forgive me, Lord, but it would take at least 10 years for me to
finish this Ark. "

Suddenly the skies cleared, the sun began to shine, and a rainbow
stretched across the sky.

Noah looked up in wonder and asked, "You mean you're not going to
destroy the world?"

"No," said the Lord. "The government beat me to it ."

Summerwitch on 'Are NEPHILIM A Fact Or A Fantasy?'

Summerwitch — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:27:01 -0600

RINKYDINKY - Good morning from South Africa. Thank you so much for the comments. That is a very good question you have asked. It would be super if others who have experienced what I did, come forward and answer this for us. What I imagine is that we may just see these "entities" differently from one another... As I said I was in an altered state, which as a witch we would call it "between" the worlds. We are not then viewing with our physical eye, but with our "third" eye if u will. I believe that the angels & demons can and will change form, especially if they enter our physical plane, kind of like "when in Rome, do as the romans do". I think when you are confronted or connect to these beings, we may see them according to what and where we are on the spiritual ladder. I know that I am a warrior when I enter their space, as I said, the angels were not intimidating and the demon was afraid. They also were not in the same "place" . The angels were very very far away. The demon was close. I hope I am making sense to those who know a bit about this. I dont know what the bible says about it, I fear that book (not the religion) has caused the biggest rift amongst the people since it came into existence.It saddens me. Here I am , trying to live a good life, helping and spreading the love without the bible in my hand, and others all over the world are murdering eachother with that bible because their gospel condones it? Why are the people not THINKING?

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acousticguitarist — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 01:35:57 -0600

For me ...it doesn't matter at all because I'm comfortable with any name, but the conversation was about 'Jehovah', and there are numerous stories about that name and not all have been good to the surprise of some people. The point was that the what I'll refer to as supposed origion of that name was the name that the Jewish people would not or were not allowed to repeat.

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rinkydinky — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 01:24:19 -0600

ah, but dose it really matter what Gods name is? I'm just a person but i have lots of different titles (Rhys Rodgers, Rinky Dinky, Mr Rodgers, brother, son, and alot of different nick names) I respond to all of them. God is GOD, so I'm sure he must have lots and lots of names. And i don't think he will particularly mind if you call him by a different name, he reads your intentions, not technicality's.
- thats what i think anyway.

acousticguitarist on 'Are NEPHILIM A Fact Or A Fantasy?'

acousticguitarist — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 01:18:36 -0600

apart from the oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh bit
:-)

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rinkydinky — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 01:11:22 -0600

ooooooooooooooh. soooooooooooo interesting!!
now here is a question. do you think all angels/demons look exactly the way you see them. like YOU look the same no matter who sees you.

or perhaps do they look different to different people, like they dont have physical bodys but the images you project of them are lucid and depend on influences upon you. Say if i get everyone in a room to do what you did and step into another plain of reality, would they all see different looking angels?

I hope i make sense.

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acousticguitarist — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 01:07:10 -0600

That issue about not caring what the bible says is a very very strange value judgement.

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rinkydinky — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 00:55:58 -0600

wooooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaahhh!!!!!!!!!!
take a chill pill kingskid.
I think its interesting to discuss our different ideas, but when it comes down to it, no one can be 100% sure, and besides, it dosent actually matter whether the nephilim existed or not.

I would like to think they did, as i plan to write a fantasy series based in the pre flood world, combining the bible with Atlantian myths!!! yyyaaaah!

I'm a christian and an emerging fantasy writer - rhysrodgers.com

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acousticguitarist — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:27:48 -0600

It's Jewish tradition. I'm 99.99% sure

I never said any of Gods names, just that one in particular

globalgirl on 'Are NEPHILIM A Fact Or A Fantasy?'

globalgirl — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:23:19 -0600

Tony - Are you thinking about when God said to Moses "I AM that I AM"? (Ex 3:14)

Jaesten - Hi :)

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jaesten — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:21:45 -0600

Acoustic, where did you read in the Bible that Gods name must not be mentioned?
I think that the person thinks like that really don't understand what the Bible says.
God wants his name to be known to all and not to be kept in secrets. Nor he just be called in his titles like GOD, ALMIGHTY GOD, CREATOR and the likes.
I am going to give you later the Bible texts that support my claims. I just need to eat late lunch.. :)

I my self believes that the name of God is Jehovah, the English translation of Yahweh which came from the 4 letters of tetragrammaton ( i am sorry about the spelling. :) )

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globalgirl — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:21:25 -0600

Are you thinking about when God said to Moses "I AM that I AM"?

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acousticguitarist — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:12:21 -0600

Thanks but it's a bit more complex than that isn't it? Wasn't the name unpronounceable or not to be spoken of and the Christian faith called it Yahweh?

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globalgirl — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:09:35 -0600

Alice Bailey - The one who started Theosophy? Theosophy believes in a coming christ, a new age christ, an Aquarian christ, if my memory serves me correctly. Her teachings influence Freemasons. Correct me if needed.

This religion is in opposition to the teachings of the biblical Jesus, Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

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globalgirl — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:09:01 -0600

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globalgirl — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:00:24 -0600

Yaweh?

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acousticguitarist — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:38:22 -0600

As for 'What is God?'. It's not answerable by common language. Some people use the technique of Netti, Netti to arrive at that conclusion. Some use devotion, others Self enquiry, others self less service..the list is long, and some The Sound Current. But in the end none of these can be put into words and God can only be experienced, mot spoken of. But I'd assume that God is is omnipresent, if that is so,where isn't He/She/It?

The word JEHOVAH is not the correct word, it is an interpretation of another word

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jaesten — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:17:39 -0600

Wow! I love the on going exchanging of views and points here..:)

Summer, do not worry i am not offended or something, this is just a topic. And i am just telling what i know.
I am impressed that some of you really have references.

Now, i have read above a question i think coming from you acousticguitarist. The questions goes like this, What/Who is God?

Anyone have an idea?

How about what Psalms 83:18 said? It mentioned there that the name of God is JEHOVAH..

As of now, many of us believes that JESUS is the Almighty God and other believes that Son, Father and the Holy Spirit is one thus naming it as Trinity.

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acousticguitarist — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:29:15 -0600

Maybe because it creates a challenge on how to live your life. Maybe because the churches have suppressed people into having a poverty mentality. Maybe for he same reason he got chased out of India by the Brahmins, because he makes the community question itself.

Probably a zilloin reasons. An acquantence of mine wrote lots of books about Eastern philosophy and was quite famous, but had incredible blocks with Christianity stemming from his upbringing. Another friend spent an hour with him one day and worked through it with him. That's all it took, one hour and he undid 70 years of conditioning. Both are dead now and both lived magnificent lives.

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acousticguitarist — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:06:02 -0600

the concept of being a white witch is very limiting, it's his choice and i guess he needed to define himself, but i get the idea. It does sound spooky for people that are unfamiliar with the term and have been spooked by 'THE DARK SIDE' :-)

I don't know his background though, whether he went through the Alice Bailey stuff or not. There are lots of people interested in him and many people have become frightened by predictions. He used to have a map of the supposed new world after earth changes. I'm hoping some of the continents move a bit closer so I can have better access to guitar shops, I've made a promise to by myself a new guitar every year.

I think reality is stranger than fiction, anything is possible and sometimes people see things that no-one else does and that's fine by me.

I think it's very important to see the humour in it all, other wise it gets a little depressing. I think they should have soccer games between the different religions and the winner can claim that their God is the greatest until the next game. Brazil will not be permitted to enter, they can just Carnival each time, otherwise it's an unfair advantage and we'll get the same God all the time.